in the mountains of Massif Central, in France,
Jacotte Chollet attended Grenoble University
where she received a BA and MA in English
and in Linguistics.
worked as a documentary filmmaker for French
Her work took her around the world USA,Canada,
Lebanon, Israel, Ireland, Papua New Guinea,
Kenya, Nepal, Thailand, Morocco, Ivory Coast,
Bangladesh, Lapland, North Yemen and Haiti...
In 1978, with her husband and long-time
collaborator André Voisin, Jacotte leaving
behind more ethnographic and social aspects
of their previous work focus on unity
rather than diversity.
They produce three series of documentaries:
- "The wheel of life" synthesizing Eastern
and Western concepts about life from birth
- "In search of Man" a series concentrating
on our senses, our perception, language,
communication and how to overcome our limits
through specific practice in spirituality
and ultimate performance in sports .
The last series called :
- "Passion for life" is an opening on the
world of the unconscious and subconscious
through Arthur Janov's "Primal therapy",
it is a kind of ethnography of the mind.
Chollet’s work brought her into contact
with leading edge thinkers, researchers
and spiritual figures such as :
Karl Phibram, David Bohm, Fritjof Capra,
Stanislas Grof, Philippe Lavastine, Paul
Mac Lean, Karl H. Stockhausen, Leonor Fini,
Norman Cousins, Jean Charron, K. Ueshiba
the founding master of Aikkido, Arthur Janov,
Marilyn Ferguson, and Krishnamurti among
In the last months of 1984, it seems you
changed direction, what led you shift
your focus from film to music and sound
? What events led to it ?
When I look back, it seems to me that music
and vibrations were present all along in
My native birth place is a land of running
waters and forests, they were my first harmonies
from nature, my first musical background.
It seems that since I was born I was in
touch with the world of vibrations, but
I was not consciously aware of that quality
before I really engaged myself into music.
Then, my mother’s death and the events
surrounding it were decisive in my orientation,
they litteraly pushed me towards sound,
the world of vibrations, energy and music,
and André, my husband took his part in that
choice too, he really supported me .
What inspired you to write this music ?
I consider myself more a creator than a
I see myself as the synthesizer of all my
fragmented selves and the de-composer or
all that is not my real SELF!
Besides, I don't know how to write musical
notation and I don’t want to learn
it, because for me, music is essentially
an inner experience & many of the sound
combinations I am triggering when I create
music cannot be represented.
It's other forms of sounds, sounds which
cannot be produced with classical instruments
How do you define your music ?
The basic difference between Multidimensional
Music and other music, is that it's not
written-- and it's not even improvised "on
a canvas" as Jazz or Hindu music for
It springs from pure inner navigation and
resonance with higher consciousness, energy,
sounds, tones and vibrations .
It's not only a mind walk or a soul song,
it's a vibrating, bodily experience, a spontaneous
manifestation of my inner world coming together
in a unique session. It's a journey .
You create your music on a synthesizer
or several synthesizers. What drew you to
synthesizers rather than a classical instrument?
You studied piano I understand ?
Yes, when I was a child I studied piano
for two or three years, which was just enough
to let me dare explore by myself on a keyboard,
but not enough to keep me in conventions
of what should or should not be done.
I was drawn to synthesizers for a number
of reasons, all specific and important to
me, the first one was "sound" itself.
With a synthesizer, you are in close touch
with wave forms, you actually synthesize
sound out of the different elements composing
it & this world of sound felt more open
to me than the world of music with its modes
and conventions !
And for me, music is everywhere, in nature,
in insects, birds or dolphins, in stars,
in outer space...
and I wanted to render these harmonies,
I wanted to widen the concept of music,
to make it more inclusive, more universal.
The second reason was freedom : in the early
eighties, you did not have to go to a music
conservatory to learn how to play a synthesizer,
you could invent in your own way. Nobody
was to impose rights and wrongs on you.
The field was free of imprints .
So it was the novelty of the instrument
which attracted you most ?
Not only its novelty, but its capacity,
its total flexibility, its incredible quickness
of action, its immense array of possibilities.
I was in TV, although I was a Producer and
director, I could never question my ultimate
creative capacities, I was depending on
a lot of external factors . On the contrary,
with my synthesizer I could master all parameters
I was at the same time the song, the composer,
the soloists, the orchestra, the conductor,
the sound engineer, and the audience !
My experience and my responsibility were
total, and I had enough control of the machinery
to abandon all control as regards inspiration,
I could open myself totally to the unknown
from the moment I knew I wouldn’t
be betrayed or restrained by any external
My only desire was to suspend any limitation,
to merge into music, to breathe music ,
to BE music.
My hands on the keyboard were instruments
of an invisible orchestra, expressing my
slightest emotion, my tiniest sensations,
my soul most hidden inclinations...
Instant materialization of inspiration,
instant resonance, instant feed back.
For the 1st time in my life, I could test
my real capacity for creation with no filter
from the intellect, no critical mind, no
compromising of any kind, just the pure
flow of intuition and the truth of the timeless
instant of creation …
When I was using low base sounds, for instance,
I could feel vibrations in my body, in my
legs, in my feet, in my whole body.
It was something real. It was not mind amusement,
it was directly into my body.
I was amazed by this incredible power of
sound on the body .
And with the very high treble, it’s
like you quit being able to locate where
the sound is coming from.
It’s so much in the treble that you
don’t know where it is. It’s
everywhere, there’s no more limit
In the beginning, I could manually activate
my synthesizer, (it was not digital)…
all the way from base to treble, I could
go to the ultra sound back and forth and
feel what was the effect on me .
It made me aware of the fact that we live
in a rather marrow range of frequencies
which we mistake for totality !
Did you develop a method for exploring different
ranges of frequencies ?
No, my process was purely intuitive, purely
experimental and experiential, I was at
the same time subject and object .
First, I generated sounds, then I played
with them and let myself be entrained by
the music. Certain sound waves felt more
appealing to me than others and I would
follow them wherever my spirit would call
These sounds, these tones were my guides
to the unknown. I had the feeling they were
real beings of a subtler kind, made of sound,
coming from other dimensions to teach me,
to educate me in this new science .
I could feel my cells opening to a new vibration,
sustaining higher levels of frequency. Sonic
energies were visiting my body, they were
detecting any obstacle, opening one by one
all my blocking .
It was a pure illumination, pure dance of
Music unfolding under my hands had a strange
power, it was transporting me into "altered
states" of consciousness .
I had the strange feeling that my body had
dissolved, there were no more boundaries.
I could touch my essence, my real self,
Sometimes, from the first measures on, I
had the real feeling that I already knew
this music …
Sometimes, just by touching the keyboard
I could hear the specific clarity and pure
resonance indicating that I was already
tuned in ! Nothing special to do this day,
there it was !
At other times, I had to clean my field,
to get rid of my worries before I could
I was under great transformation, my body
was harmonizing, I was healing.
I was giving birth to my new self.
The music that emerged from my synthesizers
seemed so wide, felt so strange; it sounded
like it was coming from other spaces, from
other dimensions & when listening to
it, I would feel cold, so intensely cold
that I had to take hot baths to recover
some warmth, I was amazed !
How could I be at the same time so small
and so immense, so finite and so infinite
In search of answers, I went on a pilgrimage
after the trace of Pythagorus into the Greek
island of SAMOS, I visited the temple
of Asclepius in Turkey, I was impregnated
with energies in Delphi and Epidaurus.
I felt attracted by this lineage, the "music
of the spheres" was subtly calling me.
You wanted to write for the whole range
of human capacity ?
One of the first persons to influence me
I made a film about him with my husband
in 1972. He was talking about another way
of "being" through experience
of "undivided attention".
He was also claiming that we are using only
10% of our mental capacities and I was deeply
impressed by that . I think that since then
I was in search of this...
I wanted to meet with my real identity.
How is multidimensional music different
from other music ? What makes it multidimensional
What makes it multidimensional ? It’s
the effect it has !
When we cross the point of perfect stillness
inside, we enter new dimensions, new realities
defined by other frequencies, other harmonic
scales. We enter the "Multidimensional world,
also called "Hyperspace".
From the start, it was clear my music did
call on multiple dimensions of the being
And people who listened to it were exposed
to experiencing vibrations, shifts of energy,
loss of perception of time, all kinds of
sensations going far beyond what we generally
expect from music !
They were also experiencing colors and lights,
feeling activation in their chakra system,
finding themselves transported into other
Some could explore the inside of their their
body, of their brain, journey into their
DNA, watch the functioning of their cells,
feel activation in organs which we normally
don’t feel like the pineal gland for
instance, experience electric currents:
all sorts of "altered" states of consciousness...
why I called it multidimensional, because
it is !
And the effect results from the process
you use to make it ?
Yes, totally. Otherwise there would be no
music of this kind.
But I never know before hand what’s
going to happen. Each time I do it, I take
a journey into the unknown.
I don't know how to create music in an ordinary
state of consciousness, I can only reach
that field of consciousness where I AM music,
this matrix of the universe where creation
is creating and recreating itself.
It is a space of co-creation, and sometimes,
I wonder if I am playing music or if I am
being played by music or if I am just a
field in resonance with other spaces and
other dimensions ?
You’re trying to express states of
consciousness, not so much an emotion like
joy or sadness.
Well, it's not so much "states" of consciousness
as sorts of Jacob’s ladders, bridges
to other dimensions of the being.
Of course you have to start from where
So music is in a way a reflection, a meditation.
Exactly, tonalities from this music are
sonic manifestations of a consciousness
expanding journey, they give consciousness
a space to manifest and be perceived as
I am not the only one to express such
a concept, I
was preceded by Sufi master HAZRAT
INAYAT KHAN, who wrote in his book :
"The Mysticism of sound" :
" Creation starts with the activity of
consciousness called vibration, and all
vibrations springing from their original
source are the same, they only differ by
their tone and rhythm caused by the degree
of force moving them…
Sound gives to consciousness evidence of
its existence, although it’s the active
part of consciousness itself which transforms
The knower knows itself , in other terms,
consciousness becomes conscious of its own
voice…/… each atom in the universe
confesses by its tone : My origin is no
other than sound".
And also : "The secret of composing is based
on a tone robustly sustained as long as
possible across all its degrees, a breakup,
a split destroys its life, its power its
magnetism exactly as breath retains life
and possesses grace, power and magnetism."
also find some information about Pythagorus
and about music evolution across ages in
another book by
Dane RUDYARD : "The magic of tone
and the art of music":
"Pythagorus put stress on the therapeutic
effects of sounds when they were becoming
"tones capable of transmitting will,
energy and compassion from the one who had
produced them, in tune with the rhythm of
universal vital force."
Now, let’s go back to what really
made you shift from film to music, what
was the real stake for you at that time
At one point, I realized that, although
I had been traveling all over the world,
there was one thing I did not know and it
was myself !
At this time
in my life, after being fifteen years in
TV, the real question was :
" Who am I ? What is the stuff I am made
of ? What is beyond what I know about myself
I could no longer accept depending upon
other peoples' experience or wisdom, I was
in search of "first hand information"
! I had to venture into the unknown .
You’re making documentaries, films,
which most people would consider to be about
images. Instead of making music, you could
have turned directly to painting or personal
I was a photographer prior to filming.
And I turned to painting while creating
music, but you see, photography and films
are languages structuring space, and music
is a language structuring time .
So I was sticking to my basic love for languages.
Music appeared to me as the only truly universal
How did you get interested in sound ?
Well, it was very progressive , during all
these films, all these travels among different
civilizations, I realized that for all people
from Africa, from Asia, among the Aborigines,
the common way to get into altered states
of consciousness, the common way to get
into shamanic practice was basically sound,
was overwhelmingly sound. Everywhere...
became obvious to me that Sound was THE
royal way to get to the unknown in our own
I also receive some practical education
One day, we were in Africa filming an elephant
in a reservation . It was a small elephant,
a baby elephant. I was asked by the sound
engineer if I was willing to get near the
elephant to record it . And this elephant
was showing swelling in the joints. We thought
that it couldn’t go after me…
Then the sound engineer is shouting "Go
nearer, go nearer !" And suddenly the elephant
emits such a powerful sound , so close to
me, that I was petrified ! Even if this
animal had run on me I could not have made
the slightest move, I was anesthetized by
this sound, like frozen !
Much later, while we were editing four films
about Arthur Janov Primal therapy, a highly
emotional therapy, I started manipulating
the sound track to understand how we perceive
sound and images .
The result was amazing ! You could not recognize
the real, actual emotions expressed by people,
because of the sound track ! Meaning was
coming from the sound track! Sound was first!
And then you heard Tibetan music, and
that was a very deep experience.
We were filming in a Tibetan monastery and
it was a very special time in my life.
not know consciously that I was going to
lose my mother who was to die suddenly when
she was still young. I did not know it consciously
but I think I knew it subconsciously. The
reason why I say this is because I was making
two films on death the very year prior to
her own death.
These films were part of a series called
"the wheel of life" according to the Tibetan
concept . The two last films were dealing
with death and dying .
We were ready to shoot at one of the offerings,
special chants, for a monk who had died,
and so, the moment that the Tibetan gongs
horns and trumps resonated, I felt all the
sounds had gone to my solar plexus to hit
me there !
I could hardly stay on my legs, My body
was no longer responding to me, it was under
the influence of the music !
But you didn’t try to make Tibetan
music, or study Tibetan music.
You went on to create your own music.
It was a turning point, something which
left a deep imprint in me.
Still, what I was looking for was inside
number of physicists and researchers were
interested in the effects of your music.
Yes, this is part of number of synchronic
events which shaped my life.
After my mother died, a veil shifted . I
felt I was pushed in a new direction .
Then, 12 years later, André too, my husband
died suddenly. And again, an awful shock
and again a number of synchronic events
One month after André's passing,
I was invited to participate in a public
television show about death and "near death"
On this program, there was a physicist who
seemed rather strange. He was a quantum
physicist and a professor at the medical
school of Poitiers in France, Régis Dutheil.
He was talking about quantum physics,
medicine, death, after death, about particles
moving faster than the speed of light --
in a very natural way-- like it was known
by everybody ! (it was in 1991)
I felt I had to go & get in touch with
him. But he looked so classical, professional,
and cold that I did not dare go and talk
month later, I received a phone call from
the Krishnamurti center in Paris (the synchronistic
universe was working well)
They were inviting me to a reunion of authors
presenting their books ...
I remember, I had the clear feeling -- "when
the phone rings, you have better to answer,
it might be the universe calling you"!
Afew days later, I went to that place and
as I was watching the people coming &
going in a kind of haze, suddenly, right
in the middle of the room, I see one person
very clear & focused ...
And it was the same quantum physicist that
I had met earlier :professor Régis Dutheil
time, I understood
! I said to myself : " I better talk to
this guy now or I will run into him every
He went on to write a chapter in his book
about your music.
Yes ! At that time, nobody was really understanding
what I was doing. Even myself ! I did not
understand with my left brain what I was
doing with my right brain !
But as I started
telling him about my consciousness expanding
sessions with sound, he said, with a smile
"Oh, yes, yes, I do understand !"
He made me understand the connection between
what was happening during my consciousness
expanding sessions with music and sounds
and the interactions taking place on a quantum
He had a theory of his own about what he
called "subliminal consciousness", and what
I had been creating was kind of supporting
So, all of a sudden, in 1991, things became
clearer in my mind and my search started
being recognized !
one day, he called me & said: " I'm
writing this book about Medicine and I want
to include a chapter about your research,
now, you better go find all your notes!"
And when the book was published, lots of
people were attracted to the chapter with
my music in it: chapter VIII called
: "An opening on a medicine of the 21st
century", which for him, included consciousness
and all this quantum energy level.
He supported me intellectually, he helped
me, mad me believe in myself, he also made
me meet other scientists.
How did they come to do biological research
on your music ?
Professor Dutheil called me one day and
said there’s a woman biologist who
is working in the same area as you, you
should get in touch with her ! And this
biologist, Lydie Ries, she had had the idea
of experimenting on her own blood.
She had already noticed, after a workshop
about "energy" she'd been participating
to, changes in her blood. Her hemoglobin
level had dropped !
It had triggered her attention to the fact
that energy and hemoglobin might be correlated.
The first time she listened to my music,
she felt powerful vibrations all over her
body. She was astonished.
That is when we started to work together.
So what did her studies discover ?
She did research for two years .
I had sessions with individuals who were
volunteers for the research program and
we started having seminars, with my music
as a trigger, in what was called the
Institute for the Development and Expansion
7 to 10 or 12 people attending these seminars
. We would take blood samples from participants
volunteering in the program just before
they started listening and right after a
one hour session with the music, so there
was a lot of data to look at afterwards.
Lots of people.
And what did she see?
that while they were resonating with my
music, most of the people showed shifts
in their hemoglobin levels, gaining up to
one gram or even more in one session !
And you could see with your own eyes the
change which occurred in the color of the
blood, from dark red to beautiful red or
in some cases to a raspberry red which is
the color of highly oxygenated blood.
Now, what does this mean?
I don't want to go in details here, I just
want to give a perspective both on an inner
plane and also on a biological plane.
> It means the number of red blood cells
is increased and because hemoglobin is transporting
oxygen in the blood, it also means that
there is a higher oxygenation of the blood.
Now, what does
this mean on an inner plane ?
Well, it seems that when we are in close
touch with our REAL SELF we do create more
red blood cells...
Isn't blood a sacred vessel of our own self
Isn't blood the ultimate life process that
Is not blood the sacred vessel of LIFE itself
So, when people increase hemoglobin level
while listening to MMD music, it also means
that they are getting rid of the "programs"
they have been educated into , programs
that are not expressing life in its sacredness
, these codes are expressing "momentums"
of societies...& they are different
from one group to the next...
real process of life is NOT different from
one social group to the next, so we have
now to go back to the ESSENTIAL, go back
to what is our ESSENCE...
Now, what does oxygen do?
biological communication between cells.
So, if you have more oxygen in your blood
it facilitates all processes : thinking,
ideation, it affects everything, the heart,
the way the heart works, your whole metabolism.
If you watch what's going on in high level
sports, most high level athletes are trying
to gain in hemoglobin and blood oxygenation
by legal or illegal means to improve their
after a seminar, I forgot the blood we had
sampled for further testing in my refrigerator
I noticed it three days later, I called
her and she said : "send it now and I’ll
take a look anyway".
Wen she called me back, she was very excited
by what she had observed !
Of course, after staying for three days
in my refrigerator, blood cells had decayed
! their form, their information, was destroyed.
They were aged cells, but not all !
When she looked at the blood which had been
sampled after listening to the music, she
76 % of the information present inside the
cells nuclei was intact !
We were like mad, it seemed so incredible,
but it was true !
Now, let’s look at what this means
It shows it’s possible to bypass "entropy",
(entropy means disorder and decay) and to
access a higher order vibration, a higher
order of integrity, life , coherence and
It also shows that, during this consciousness
expanding process, blood cells access a
higher level of vibration which manifests
a higher level of coherence and order .
This is called : "neg-entropy" (negative
the aim is not only to access a higher level
of energy and harmony, the real thing is
to maintain that state of flow, to improve
permanence & to activate the life process
inside instead of attacking it which what
we do anyway most of the time...
we achieve that program ? How can we forge
in our cells a higher order of coherence,
a purer order of life?
is precisely the aim and the specificity
of multidimensional music--the more you
listen to it, the more you resonate with
it and the more harmonic, coherent information
present in it is memorized by your cells,
until it becomes second nature … One
day this higher order of organizing information
It is well known that in Evolution, a higher
order of functioning always prevails upon
the lower one.
How can impermanence turn into permanence
Through training …
How long does it take ? I don’t know,
I suppose it’s different for everybody
But, from the time when Lydie started testing
my own blood, it was obvious that I had
a more or less constant higher level of
hemoglobin, far beyond what is called the
norm and yet I was living close to sea level,
25 miles from Paris, at some 500 feet in
elevation and my hemoglobin was the same
as if I had been living in high altitude.
Of course, I was not taking any medicine
or anything that might have explained it
And what was remarkable to see was that
although I could drop it occasionally, my
hemoglobin level was remaining in a higher
Now, after how many years of practice of
inner training with Multidimensional music
did I obtain this kind of permanence?
I can’t say for sure but I did ! And
that’s how I know it works ! I have
been my own guinea pig!
And how should people listen to this music
for best results ? How do you listen to
it yourself, personally ?
years of practice have been harmonizing
me, structuring me .
Now, I mainly use it to keep me in a clear
state, to bring myself together . I use
it as a tool to recover my balance after
I’ve been submitted to emotional pressure.
Sometimes, after just a few minutes of listening,
I have a deep sigh and it’s over,
my cells are in unison and I am back in
touch with energy, back in touch with peace
Or I use it to keep inspired, to keep easily
concentrated when I write articles, when
I paint, when I perform a task requiring
I also use it a lot during my travels, it
restores my energy and I feel fresh…
How should someone who’s new to
the music approach it ?
You have to keep in mind that this music
has been created in a state of total focus,
undivided attention and deep touch with
inner feelings and sensations.
To get the whole benefit
from it, you have to keep as close as possible
to these conditions. You can call that stae
a stae of meditation or a state of "deep
It means you have to dedicate yourself
100 % to the music, either by lying down
or by sitting very comfortably, but very
centered, very present .
a few deep breaths, 3 or 4 minutes before
you start listening to the music, concentrate
on your breath, focus on your heart, have
a clear intent, feel your body relaxed and
let go of all other concerns.
Let yourself be tuned to the music, like
you were floating in a sea of sound and
let yourself be overwhelmed by the sound.
And the sounds created in this way, they
are quantum waves of consciousness. So,
they go everywhere where there is a need,
everywhere where there is a blockage, and
they open the blockage. They hit the level
in your body/mind where there is an unbalanced
structure, where there is a vortex of repressed
energy, where there is a trauma !
is a trauma, even if the surgery benefited
you on the physical plane it traumatized
your subtle energy field . As you have a
physical scar on your body, you also have
an invisible one which needs to be fixed
on an energetic level…
So, while in tune with the music, let your
body express what it needs, let your consciousness
send you the appropriate message. You have
nothing else to do, let the music do the
But if you "keep in your mind", if you "talk
to yourself" while listening to it, you
are not with the music, you are not in the
sound, then, the music cannot work for you.
You have to be fully with it .
Some people have strong images of this
music. How should they handle them, should
they try to guide the emerging imagery ?
No, they shouldn’t try to guide anything
. The fact of seeing images, of seeing lights
as some people see, it means that musical
frequencies arriving in the brain, the brain
expresses a response to those frequencies
under different modes, via different senses.
This is called "synesthesia" a frequency
switch into different senses .
So people should let come what comes .
It’s like they are looking at a film
about their psyche, about the unknown, about
themselves, about what they are not aware
of, and all this stuff is meaningful and
specific to them.
It’s like diving under the level of
the sea … Generally we only see the
tip of icebergs, here people can watch a
larger picture !
I often tell people to write down what they
see, what they perceive during their sessions
because sometimes the images they perceive
are flashing by very, very rapidly.
It’s not like if you take a psychoactive
drug, or a medicine, it’s not like
> Chemistry works by itself without your
being aware of the process involved, things
come and that’s all you know.
> With music, it’s very different,
you can follow it in a continuum
and you are driving the car yourself.
But you drive on the road, you don’t
try to analyze it while you are driving.
No you don’t ! If you do, you are
not going to be "with" the sound and nothing
is going to happen !
Somebody sent me a diary about her 2 months’
sessions with my music. She would listen
to it for one hour every two days -- very
She started to see faces appearing on the
screen of her psyche. At first, these faces
were full of hate. She was frightened .
It was like this for a few days.
But she kept firm with her intention, she
kept on listening, and gradually, these
faces became neutral. And may be, one month
later, they had transformed into loving
faces, beaming faces, shining faces.
One of the attributes of consciousness is
truth, everything comes up when you
are ready .
She understood she had ceased hating herself
Does the music ever cause people to feel
disturbed? Does it ever bring up negative
It is highly interactive and there are as
many forms of response as there are forms
of disharmony !
> Of course, if someone is in a poor
state of health, under severe pressure or
high emotions, that person may experience
some momentous unsettling or painful response
from his or her distorted energy field being
balanced by resonance with the music.
If you are going for acupuncture the doctor
will put a needle in a certain point, in
order to get back the harmony or balance
to the circuits. This music does the same.
But the needle, at this time, is your own
consciousness doing the work, resonating
on the proper level where the circuit needs
So it’s the same as with acupuncture,
you may feel pain but it means that it works.
It means that it’s good. If you feel
something like that, you should be glad,
it informs you that balance is being restored.
> All the same when people feel cold
while listening to the music, it means their
energy field is being filled with high level
energy, so they should not be bothered by
It may be that some people have been repressing
their true feelings for so long that when
they start listening to the music, they
feel a headache.
> Why ? What has caused the headache?
It’s blood vessels constricting in
the brain . When there is conflict, there
is constriction, and there is pain as blood
cannot flow freely.
And these people have taught their bodies
to restrain, to refrain, to repress their
real feelings !
> So, when they hear this music, it sets
all these repressed emotions and feelings
to motion and they automatically constrict.
As they have been learning all their life
to "repress", they are no longer aware they
are doing it !
> One must not mistake peace and repression
Real peace cannot to be confused with suppression
of all feeling ! Peace is not the negation
of something, it is the spontaneous emanation
of a deep state of harmony .
> But the great thing is that, if they
persist and keep listening to the music
for a little while, if they allow themselves
to be back in touch with their true feelings,
then the headache will disappear, and these
people will gradually recover their true
Nevertheless, I do want to stress the fact
that in over 80 % of the cases, people experience
feelings of floatation, feelings of bliss,
feelings of warmth, feelings of love, they
experience being in the light, they’re
feeling the best that they’ve ever
felt in their life !
Is there a CD that people should start
with ? You’ve said that it’s
better to work with two CDs at the same
Yes, it’s very important to remain
fresh and not go back to repeat. You don’t
want to go back to the repetitive world
and that’s what may happen when you
listen all the time to the same CD. Your
mind takes over and pretends it knows all
about the music !
So there’s no more exploration, no
more real anything happening that’s
why I recommend to listen to two CDs alternately.
In any case, you have to have a motivation,
a real drive to listen this music because
it’s the very level of truth which
you put into the experience that will open
the door or not, that will allow the music
to be effective or not.
You have to play your part! You have to
have a clear intent, and expect a lot .
The more sincere you are in your quest,
the quicker you’ll heal and recover
Does your experience in France teach you
something about which CD is easier to start
From my experience in France, I can say
that people responded very well to my first
two CDs Renaissance and Invisible
Invisible Presence brings
forth the palpable presence of the invisible
subtler realms. Some of its tonalities being
percussive, you are called back to your
real self in a very effective way.
People generally use it for meditation.
And Renaissance is an invitation
to conscious rebirth, its liquid sounds
bring emotional relief…Most people
liked it best, it’s energetic and
flowing at the same time . The two are quite
But this does not mean that you must start
with them, any two CDs used alternatively
can be best for you.
Unite is a double album, it contains
CD 1 L’ Amour roi and
CD 2 Mystery of life .
The first one is very soft and subtle,
the second one is quite powerful, it sets
back to motion energies we might have repressed
or ignored for long. It brings you down
to your center .
This double CD represents an essential stage
in this global journey to unification.
forget that the personal response you get
from resonance with Multidimensional music
is totally adapted to you whatever it may
be, it comes from your own resonant field
of consciousness .
you called the series of CDs: "Listening
to the SELF, restoring our wholeness", what
does this mean ?
The SELF is our real identity and our power
is our integrity, our wholeness, our essence,
our capacity to be in connection with all
the dimensions of our being.
Our power is our ability to heal, to recover
from the past and to fully incarnate our
This music has the capacity not only to
restore our subtle energy field but to stimulate
unfolding of our true unlimited creative
resources and conscious evolution .
So the series of 7 CDs compose a healing
journey, and each CD should be considered
as a new step.
But please, keep in mind that it is not
linear, (going from 1 to 7) it is a holistic
You have three new CDs out – Sky
Dancing, Creation, and Silent Light.
What can you tell us about them ?
These three CDs are the three last of the
series, and you always like best your new
born babies !
Light is very quiet, the theme is
tranquillity, simplicity, regeneration through
peace . Going back to the source of integrity,
drinking the clear water and watching the
silent light of your soul .
"Glissando sounds" used in this piece make
you glide into your very sacred inner sanctuary.
I love it !
Creation is a hymn to the beauty
of creation and a recall of our own inner
beauty . It celebrates the richness, the
multiplicity, the magnificence, the abundance
of creation. The music takes you to different
realms, different worlds. It is powerful
and very spatial.
There is one track about the condor’s
flight. I’ve been there, myself, watching,
photographing condors in Peru. The impressive
flight of the condor is there in the music,
so pure, so strong !
The first track is called Heaven,
I took the title from peoples’ experience…they
said it was an immediate experience of heaven
infusing them with light .
Even in terms of titling your music it
comes sometimes from feedback of people
who have heard it.
Sometimes it comes from my own inner experience,
sometimes from other peoples feedback …
And Space Song is very special,
it’s like you were in a space shuttle
in outer space. Once you are there, you
can start dancing in the sky …
Sky Dancing is the last CD
of the collection .
It’s the culmination of the whole
series, the whole 7 CDs ?
Yes, that’s why I put this illustration
on the cover, to figure a person dancing
at the tip of the pyramid. It’s the
When you are sky dancing, you are in touch
with spirit, you transcend all your limits,
you can dance on top of the pyramid. ! There
is no more gravity of any kind ! You are
flying into the ethers .
The tonalities of this album are reminiscent
of the realms of birds, insects and the
vibration of outer planets… One of
the tracks keeps making me cry every time
I listen to it : Angel Choir,
it’s like a level which is so nurturing
and so compassionate …
And somebody told me in Paris, an actress,
she said : "What I like in your music …Your
music is more a response, an answering than
a question, and when I listen to it I don’t
need to ask any more questions because I
have the answers".
The feedback that people give you is really
important to you in understanding your own
Yes, because I don’t know everything.
I can’t be every person on earth.
I don’t know the total meaning of
my work, because my experience of music
is so direct, so intense and so personal
A few weeks ago, I was presenting in a conference
on consciousness, and as soon as I started
playing my music, people were saying :
"It’s so universal !" How can I realize
that, when at the same time, it’s
so spontaneous, so natural ?
So, I welcome peoples’ feed back.
It helps me envision the span, the reach,
the range, the significance of my work.
It gives me evidence of it.
You began creating this music in 85. It’s
now 2000. How has your music changed and
evolved since you began ?
My music has evolved as much as I have evolved
but my process for creating it has remained
the same …
I still don’t know before playing
whether or not it’s going to work
! I don’t think I can do it on command
When I play on different tracks, I do one
after the other. Of course I can’t
remember on the spot what I’ve just
been playing, it’s too much, it’s
too complex . So I have to be in the same
expanded state, in the same unified field
of consciousness to be able to play again
in tune !
This is my proof, this is my trick to keep
aligned, to keep attuned, I have no choice
but to succeed !
Now I feel much more at ease in this constant
coming and going between dimensions and
consciousness states . It’s like I
have tamed this part of my being which felt
at first foreign ! I have become freer and
Could you describe more precisely the transformation
which occurred to you ?
In the beginning, in the period when I was
totally immersed into sound and music, one
day I started hearing music, in my head,
except that I experienced it as coming from
outside, through loud speakers so to speak
! But no, it was coming from my brain, it
was coming from my mind !
My brain was training into music, was playing
with harmonics. I was transforming outer
sounds into inner music !
Once, I was skiing alone on a mountain slope
and then I heard powerful symphonic music
I looked around, no speaker, nothing which
could explain it …Then, after a while,
I realized there was a specific noise coming
out of the pulley, a creaking sound and
it was that sound I had turned into music,
my brain had played with the harmonics of
This kind of experience happened to me quite
often especially in the beginning . A lot
of musicians do hear music inside their
head but in my case I could watch the unfolding
of my transformation one step after the
What was the most striking experience you
ever had ?
One day, I started playing with a metallic
like sound, and the more I was playing,
the more I was in deep touch with my soul,
the more this sound was evolving !
At the end, it sounded like a human voice,
like a lady singing and this was not only
subjective, it was real, it was recording
on my tape !
I always remember this episode because there
was a plumber working in my house. He had
come to my studio to ask me something and
he had been stuck there on the doorway,
like frozen by what he was witnessing !
He had kept silent there for fifteen minutes,
totally in another world…
When I noticed he was present, he was looking
like an angel, so different from usual,
all round and pink with delight!
Another time, very deep toned voices, like
those of Tibetan monks, kept coming out
of my synthesizer although I had not synthesized
a sound like that… and it was so powerful
that I could not even record it properly
From a quantum perspective, was I in touch
with this kind of energy in a real monastery
Was I subconsciously manifesting a sound
like that ?
The most amazing was, no doubt, when my
synthesizers plugged together were switching
their programs by themselves, due to the
high energy "resonant loop" circuit between
the electronic circuitry and me !!!
This was the most moving experience I ever
had ! And in that moment, I could bear witness
that communication is total, that all is
one in the universe and that life is present
everywhere even in a synthesizer !
I also had quite a number of experience
with birds, different birds, herons, water
birds, coming from the river some three
quarters of a mile away.
At a certain moment of intense tuning in,
they would fly to my little clearing in
the forest, right in front of my music studio
window …They were joining in my vibrating
Sometimes they even tried to come in through
my studio window, they did not perceive
the glass window !
Whenever this occurred it was reminding
me I had finally realized my dream, I had
learned what has been called "birds’
tongue" …It made me think about the
Krishna flute and Orpheus myth .
That’s the kind of thing I was experiencing,
then… So many, many different amazing
Another time, two persons I was not very
familiar with, asked me if they could come
to my studio and listen to my music. So
I started playing a tape and after a few
minutes of listening, what a shock !
I could not recognize my music !
All I could hear was a kind of fractured
cacophony, a pure horror of disharmony…
So much, that I thought my speakers had
collapsed ! I was puzzled !
When all at once, I knew ! I knew what was
happening : I was hearing the music resonating
through their subtle energy field
and it was totally unsettled there!
My god ! I was stricken ! They did not seem
to realize it was coming from them, they
certainly attributed it to me ! I was appalled…
Some musicians demonstrate a perfect ear,
why should not there be others with a perfect
ear for energy field tuning ?
After this episode, the same thing happened
again but never in such a crude way, more
like the base or the trebles were reverberated
in excess !
Most of the phenomena I have observed have
not yet a "classical" scientific explanation
because science is just now in the process
of studying "consciousness" as a new field
And yet, although we are still at the verge
of a great opening, scientists studying
"consciousness" in laboratories have already
noted 2 aspects of consciousness totally
different : one is called "global" or "non-local"
and the other one is called "local".
In the non-local qualification of consciousness
there is no longer a three dimensional frame
of reference, it’s everywhere at the
same time, it’s no longer "local".
WE are experiencing the "non-local" qualification
of consciousness when we have an expansion
of consciousness like when I am in my creative
process, I perceive everything as one,
"Local" is when I am back to the awareness
of my music studio, my synthesizers, my
local circumscribed self with a personal
"Global" consciousness is also what people
experience when they enter into resonance
with Multidimensional music : they can get
in touch with the multidimensional world
More and more people are studying "consciousness"
now, there are labs in Princeton University,
in Nevada, in Stanford University, in Arizona
… and all these phenomena which at
first appeared mysterious are being better
I initiated my explorations with sound and
music, this was not known, this field did
not exist as such.
The brain was explored and studied but consciousness
Now, 16 years later, "consciousness" is
considered the new field, the missing link,
the one which is going to make us understand
a lot of phenomena still fragmented into
different fields which are not confronted
The more we unite fragments inside ourselves,
the more we are able to envision the whole
picture, the global one.
Instead of studying fields as if they were
existing in themselves apart from our interaction,
we begin to understand that these fields
are emanations of our own consciousness
When I look back I realize not only the
incredible transformation I’ve gone
through, but also the global transformation
which has occurred in these past 15 years,
and it’s huge it’s tremendous,
it’s certainly another Renaissance
And you’ve been working on this
series of CD’s for 15 years. Now it’s
finished and you’re lecturing and
speaking about it.
I have not
been working on this series for 16 years
! I have been working on myself for 16 years,
and this series of CDs is the outcome of
it, the gift to bear witness to my journey
The most incredible thing I’ve learned
through this process is that we have no
real limit, except the ones we think we
Even if you are convinced about some of
your limits, a few sessions with Multidimensional
music might change your view and make you
experience your own multidimensionality
At conferences and workshops you not only
discuss your music but you play it. And
you’re doing more and more conferences
both in the U.S. and internationally.
Yes, for 2 years now, I have been lecturing
in international conferences like the international
conference on "Science and Consciousness"
in Albuquerque, "Conference on Shamanism
and alternate modes of healing" etc….
I present "consciousness expanding" workshops.
I describe my personal adventure in consciousness
and in music. I play my music, and each
time, I am amazed by people’s incredible
Each time, it’s so much more than
I could have imagined ! It’s really
beyond any expectations !
What’s the most frequent question
that people ask you when you are presenting
your work ?
The most frequent question is : "How did
you have the idea to do this, to create
this music, how did it came to you ?"
As you now know, it was not an idea,
but a lifelong work ! And it was not
only music but a higher course in energy,
a consciousness raising process, a real
Some people show a bias against synthesizers
. They have been told that "acoustic " only
is good, and here again we go right back
into the old dichotomy of the good and bad,
into division, into sectarian attitude,
into exclusion. This attitude has always
surfaced in periods of transition when new
tools, or new ideas emerge . Anyway, what
I have shown in this field is that it's
not the tool you use that counts most, it's
the spirit and the true level of consciousness
which you express that shapes sounds differently;
and this is true of any instrument but it
is especially spectacular with a sound synthesizer
A fringe of people stick to the old, stick
to tradition until one day what looked new
seems mainstream, then nobody keeps questioning
any longer …
I am totally convinced that if Mozart were
creating music now, he would use a sound
His mind was too unconventional to stick
to the past…
What’s next for multidimensional music ?
am now in a horizontal phase after the verticality
of these past years .I have searched the
cave, I can offer the gifts, the jewels
and the light which I found there.
like to see Multidimensional music spread
all over everywhere in many directions and
on many dimensions .
This web site can become a lively place
for people to exchange their impressions,
their experiences with the music . It can
become the place where they can freely
express their feelings and bring about their
own ideas of what should be experimented
next with Multidimensional music, or of
what they would like to co-create with this
music … It could become a kind of
co-creative forum about CREATION .
of my aims is to entrain people who are
not yet convinced they are creative, to
awaken them to their yet unknown capacities
and gifts .
Once you are healed, once you have recovered
your true self, you have a lot more energy
available for creation, and instead of creating
diseases you can create our self anew.
Creativity is the most dangerously contagious
vibration in the world, it spreads far beyond
the speed of light , it’s instantaneous
Creation is alive, what you have been creating,
in turn creates …
It no longer belongs to you, it goes back
to the universe where you got it from…
I am going to spread in Europe and on the
American continent presentations and workshops
on "CREATIVITY" in addition to the already
existing "CONSCIOUSNESS EXPANDING workshops"
I have been making up till now . People
who want to invite me to spread that high
frequency seed in their associations or
groups or community can contact me through
my web site …
But, I also have dreams and priorities,
there are several dimensions where I’d
like to see my music expand.
I don’t know if you are aware of the
work of Hans Jenny, a Swiss researcher,
he has demonstrated how sound can architecture
anything, can cause form to manifest...He
made architecture out of sound with liquids,
with sand with other materials. You see
geometric structures underlying matter,
A few years ago, I became obsessed with
this idea of "seeing" sound …
I wanted to see what my music looked like
? So I put several incense sticks in front
of the speakers and I could see sounds and
tones, swirling very finely, layering, unfolding,
dancing. It was quite magical !
I’d like to show that invisible universe
shaping under peoples’ eyes, I’d
like a lot of people to discover this world
of sound, this world of energy which is
so mysterious, so impalpable and so beautiful
I think this would open the door to more
see a place, there would be a room where
you cansee your own personal interaction
with this music.
say that people would wear a bracelet with
electrodes, or they would lay on a special
couch equipped with specific captors and
then they would see, on a screen, music
as it is without their interactive participation
and on the other one, music with their own
subtle energy field interaction.
would actually see embodied in shapes and
colors their own resonance, their own differential
So they could monitor it as is done in bio-feedback,
but it would be a kind of giant Multidimensional
feedback of their multidimensional being
Wouldn’t’ it be gorgeous ?
I also see aroom where people would come
to be "inspired" would bear the name of
"INSPIRATORIUM" and there, people would
listen to music and at the same time see
their aura projected on a dark screen.
They would come for the purpose of " being
one with spirit" which is the real meaning
We as naions may be afraid of lacking resources,
lacking oil, but there is a number one resource
which can never get extinct it is INSPIRATIOn
and when we as a whole get more spiritual
than we actually are, we shall look in that
just hope that we do not destroy the planet
before as a result of this quest for oil
Without In-spiration not a single drop of
civilisation or of evolution would have
So I am coherent and I give my share of
that I give back what I have been endowed
: Do you have dreams concerning
research health or education ?
regards research, a lot could be undertaken
as I am quite certain MD music can be used
as an efficient preventive care device as
regards health .
> The study and observation of the "life
field" or bio-plasma would certainly indicate
a lot about what can be efficiently balanced,
reordered and harmonized in terms of distorted
energies during the months or weeks prior
to a major outbreak of a disease like cancer,
Aids or other types of disease.
> I would like a hospital or a preventive
care unit or a University program volunteer
for such a research program, I think we
now have the technology to investigate this
domain . It would be great to show the "regulating"
"ordering" and "harmonizing" effect of MMD
on this field.
> I’d like to see MMD music used
in any case of assistance to people undertaking
heavy medical programs or major surgical
> I don’t believe so much in watching
the music’s action on isolated cells
as we are psycho-somatic beings, holistic
units; looking at isolated factors does
not appeal to me, it sounds too artificial.
As regards education, this appears as a
major and crucial field of use . I’d
like to see schools using MMD music in assistance
for students with attention deficiency problems,
students with hyperactivity syndromes .Impact
of MMD music should also be studied in kindergarten
at the precise time when children learn
the most basic stuff and start developing
their mind and brain capacities, at an age
when they still are in a process of language
or brain motor acquisition …
I have evidence of a case where a 7 years
of age child drew a remarkable drawing with
his 2 hands at the same time showing a perfect
synchronizing of his 2 brain hemispheres
while he was listening to MMD …So
I’d like to see more in that direction
People interested in developing their intuition
should use MMD music as a holistic tool
for that specific purpose.
MMD music has been created totally intuitively
and this intuitive energy, this information,
is at the core of this music so it should
show highly efficient in that respect .
I’d like to see a study undertaken
in that field too and with already highly
creative, highly intuitive, highly developed
people, artists or scientists or inventors
…I have been dreaming of a special
program with a group of this kind of people
to watch the unfolding of more creative
A special mention should be put in the use
and careful study of the effect of this
music with people in palliative care units,
people preparing for dying, people in great
pains or moral distress.
They should totally benefit from MMD, it
would help them opening the perspective
of the transformation they are going to
face which is the ultimate one, it should
bring them peace , hope, and faith in their
> The other area where I’d like
to see Multidimensional music going in is
more mundane but no less important I think
.As a former film maker I am quite sure
I would be especially capable of composing
the sound track of films. I would then end
the circle image-sound-image which I started
a long time ago !
I’d like to see more daring in this
domain. We could create "sound special effect"
Through the use of a different kind of sound…and
the perception of these special effects
would be more personal, people in the audience
would each see their own version of the
film through their own special tuning with
the sound tack…
It could be the opening of an era of multidimensional
You played in the great Khufu
Yes, I played inside the Great Chamber,
the Kings Chamber, in 1997 during the full
moon of February and it was a highly vibratory
experience. see photos
You could hear, feel the music inside
the pyramid by leaning with your back onto
the stone in the 4 corners of the king’s
chamber. The pyramid felt like a spiral
, sound was spiraling all over, it was like
a vortex of incredible energy sounding inside
the very structure of the pyramid, it felt
very, very special!
So I’ d like to play in other sacred
places like Epidaurus, Delphi, Machu Pichu,
But I also would be willing to hold
healing sessions with MMD in spaces which
are in great need of healing because of
their energy unbalance. Their electromagnetic
field has been damaged either because a
lot of people have been killed there or
because a lot of people have been suffering
there or because they have been chemically
Places like people register and record all
that’s happening in terms of energy,
they are like books of the invisible .
Terrible marks, terrible scars may remain
in certain places, people may not be aware
that they are still kind of prisoner of
These are a few of my dreams, I offer them
so that the universe may bring me back in
turn its gifts and provide me with means
of accomplishment .